sound cartridges

[Hanthx]

I was wondering what the quality of sound was like on the sound cartridges of the past?

Did they only come with one track of sound or two? Im assuming one.

Also
Are any places left that actually stripe film after its been developed?

Is it worth it?

Thanks


Scott

[This message has been edited by Hanthx (edited July 12, 2001).]

[Homo-8]

I'm into super-stripping!

Or do you need your post-striped?

Will you strip for me, Poser-Boy?

[Nigel]

I have heard thing as well. I have never had it done to my film but I have heard that it is not the best set-up when post-stripped. Talk with Martin Baumgarten I think he knows about it. Good Luck

PS--I sent your Postcard.

[#Pedro]

Hi Scott!

The former post-striped filmes always had two sound tracks, but the cameras only recorded to the main track. The sound quality depended mostly on the camera, the microfone and the general setup. From time to time I made sound recordings with the Beaulieu 6008 and a small mike, located away from the camera. I considered the results to be good, the bottleneck is not the achievable soundquality of the stripe, nor of the camera, but is the general acustic of the setup location and the mike. And that bottleneck did not change with the introduction of digital recording to minidisc or sth else.

The better sound quality I always achieved with post-striped films, I am doing this even today by myself and here there are several labs around with offer that service.
The reason for the better sound quality is that the stripe of the post striped film has a plain surface and the best possible contact to the magnetic head. The pre-striped films are not really striped, they have a "painted" sound track, which never can have a really plain surface, it?s thicker in the middle and thinner at it?s borders. Therefore the head contact is not so good, nor the sound quality.
But with the time, assuming that only pre-striped film is used, the soundheads will become the shape of the stripe?s surface and reproduce pre-striped film better than post-striped. But a new sound head always works better with post striped film.
Try it out with a high quality projector, f.e. a Elmo GS and record stereo music with 24 fps. Go over external speakers and you will be astonished how good it sounds! But remember, important for all that analouge recordings is the correct gain setting, according to the tape used!

Pedro

[Hanthx]

Pedro!

Thanks again for the great information!
Next documentry I shoot, I will send it to a lab and have them stripe it with two sound tracks, and maybe by then, I will have the projector I want, either the Elmo Gs series, or the Elmo St 1200 Hd. This month I will be selling my Chinon 6100 sound. I has the capabilitly to record only track of sound, but does have an external speaker outlet.
By the way...
I met up with Alex Gregg from England yesterday, what a great Kid, and very enthusastic about photography, cinematography, and of course, super 8mm.
He brought his Nizo 801 Macro, but didn't have any film, so I gave him a couple rolls of B&W. We sat down with my family and saw the documentry I shot in Malibu, and then later on, saw "Final Fantasy". Very cool movie with a good story, not your typical special effects story. This kid has got a bright future. I was glad to have met him.
Hes heading up to L.A. soon,
so theres a few of you guys up there, might want to show him around.
18 years old, and traveling in another country, very brave.
Thanks again for the input Pedro, I have a few more questions about recording sound seperately and ultilizing the projector's 60hz input, but I will email you later on that subject.

Scott